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Messaggio Da loonar il Mer 17 Lug - 22:30

Interessante articolo (LINK) sulla spiritualità



The wars continue on. There are these who say there’s a God, these who say that there isn’t one, and everything in between. I spent many years as a Christian Orthodox, then an Atheist, and now I identify with New Age Spirituality.
The problem with spirituality is that atheists see it as religion, and religious people see it either as atheism, or as something heretic and distorted. However, I don’t consider this type of Spirituality to be a religion. I don’t even consider it strictly a “belief” either, because there’s at least some degree of proof in it. Neither I consider it atheism. To me, it’s just the natural order of things in the universe.
What is Spirituality
To me, Spirituality is like saying that “the keyboard that I type this in right now exists, not because I believe it does, but because it I can see it with my own eyes”. In my opinion, Spirituality exists somewhere in between traditional religion and atheism, and it’s on the opposite site of agnosticism. In short:
Religion: I believe that this keyboard exists. I was told it does, and I have faith that it does.
Atheism: The keyboard doesn’t exist. End of story.
Agnosticism: I don’t know if the keyboard exists or not, there’s no proof of any kind.
Spirituality: The keyboard exists. I can see it with my own eyes, so I have personal proof.

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Why it’s not a “traditional” religion
Religion in the modern times seems to be prescribed as anything that is unattainable and mystical. It’s all a mystery. God did this, God did that, God said this or that, you should fear God, you can’t understand God. This is the crux of all “pop” religions, as I call them. Be it Abrahamic religions, or the “pop” versions of Eastern religions, it’s all about fear, silly ritual, and organized endeavors. The few that do get these religions right are usually only monks and mystics. The rest of the population, is simply controlled by religion, they live in fear, and in blind superstition.
Spirituality on the other hand, is freedom. There is no organized cult behind it, and there is no fear. There is no control, or dogmas. There is only one teaching: LOVE. Everything else, is secondary. Spirituality proves to the individual by his/her personal experience that everything is One. That there is a loving consciousness where everything interconnects, making us all part of this same Source Being. Some would call this “God”, and that’s ok. Others could even call it simply, just “everything”. But as I said, Unconditional Love is the main teaching.
Why it’s not atheism
Atheists do not believe that anything apart from themselves and the visible or scientifically-understandable universe exists. While they’re usually open to ideas of parallel universes and such (as proposed by math or quantum physics), the idea they resist the most is that that there’s a God. There are atheists who just in need of proof, and there are atheists simply because they hate what religions have become and they see no point in believing in a ruthless God (nor do I, for that matter).
Obviously, spirituality is not atheism per se, since it accepts that there are realms beyond the visible, and of course, it accepts that a person can attain knowledge that we’re all part of the same Source Being/Consciousness.
Personal proof
The difference with both religion and atheism is that with Spirituality you can have personal proof that God exists. You can feel, and see “God” right in front of your eyes. This is not something that the vast majority of traditionally religious people can claim. Most of these believers live in the dark ages of “blind faith”.
Of course, personal proof is not scientific proof, but that’s just because science hasn’t reached that level yet, being able to detect higher frequencies of Being, which are also full of life. But the point is, that these realms are real enough for the person experiencing them to transform him/her. Why do you need an experiment to tell you that what you see in front of you is real or not? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. Even if it ends up being a powerful hallucination, it’s real-enough to the person who experienced it. What is “real” anyway? Physics haven’t even answered that yet!
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“A human being is a part of a whole, called by us ‘universe’, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest… a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.” — Albert Einstein
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How To
Experiences range from astral projection to other planets, to other realms that live in different frequencies, to time travel, to parallel timelines, to different universe bubbles, but the ultimate destination is to be connected with Source. When you do, then all the knowledge of what has ever been, is, and ever will be, is yours (although, you’re not “you” anymore, as you will also experience what is called “ego death” in order to connect with All). While One with the One, you will feel unconditional love for all, a type of divine ecstasy and acceptance that it can’t be felt while on your human body. It’s a type of feeling that is not analogous to the feelings we can experience while in our 3rd density/dimension body.
There are two ways to connect to the Source:
1. The easiest ways are via DMT/Ayahuasca, or high doses of magic mushrooms, LSD, and possibly mescaline (I’d avoid Salvia, it transports you to lower densities instead of higher ones).
The public has been conditioned to believe that these “drugs” produce hallucinations, or that they’re dangerous. I believe that the government is just myopic on that respect. If you start reading DMT trip reports, you will find yourself puzzled about the similarity of reports on the various realms. There is a plethora of aliens or higher beings contacted via DMT, but some have canning similarities between reports. For example, the “machine elfs”, or the beings of Pure Light. The lower astral parasites that feed on your energy, and the “demons” (possibly life forms that simply evolved to ingest life force from souls in order to survive). These drug trips, especially on DMT, look more real than real to the user. With LSD and mushrooms, which are less intense and don’t always transport you to other realms, you can experience telepathy and literally see the fractals that constitute our “holographic reality”.
I mean, it’s surely of wonder how when high on some of these substances you can see an entity flying around your room that you never noticed before, only to have your dog chasing and barking at it at the same time. Makes you wonder.
A small amount of people on hallucinogenics have connected with Source. They don’t always attain its high frequency, most of the time they end up somewhere in the middle of all things. It’s a crapshoot.
2. Meditation. This is the harder way, but also the best way in both astral safety, and navigating through the higher realms, to eventually reach Source. It might take years before you do, but when you do, you’re truly Enlightened, and the connection doesn’t get severed (as it does with hallucinogens, that simply offer a glimpse of what is).
Conclusion
At the end, no matter what I write, atheists will break apart this article picking on words and sentences, and the religious people would do exactly the same thing. But it doesn’t matter. Personal proof is all I need. I need neither our existing (limited) science, nor blind faith. The middle road works for me for now. If anything, I continue to live a type of life that is more akin to an atheist (in terms of not interfering with other people’s freedoms as some Christians/Muslims do). My day to day life hasn’t changed one bit when I became Spiritual. All it changed was the way I viewed the Cosmos. I do not feel alone anymore, there’s life everywhere. I now don’t fear death because I’m Eternal.[/font][/color]

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Re: Spiritualità

Messaggio Da Sally il Mer 17 Lug - 22:41

Cosa non s'inventa la gente per giustificare a se' stessa e agli altri l'uso di LSD e funghetti allucinogeni... magari pero' potremmo consigliargli questo metodo di coltivazione, potrebbe portare ad una connessione ad alta densita' con l'Altissimo!

http://rispostecristiane.blogspot.it/2013/02/sesso-cristiano-e-funghetti-allucinogeni.html

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Re: Spiritualità

Messaggio Da Tomhet il Mer 17 Lug - 22:51



Non vedo comunque la differenza tra la sua "prova personale" e il classico "credo" in qualsiasi cosa.
Mi sembra come uno che afferma di conoscere qualcosa di meglio delle automobili, un qualcosa con un motore e quattro ruote chiamato "deambulatore a benzina".

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Re: Spiritualità

Messaggio Da loonar il Mer 17 Lug - 22:56

non hai capito.
dice che lei crede a ciò che vede, mentre i religiosi no! Loro credono anche a ciò che non vedono.
Nel senso, se lei si fa un funghetto, vede lo spirito del funghetto che le parla, lei crede allo spirito del funghetto! Anche se non esiste, però lei l'ha visto, tanto basta! Nella sua realtà quella visione l'ha influenzata in un certo qual modo, perciàò ha degli effetti reali (oltre all'avvelenamento da funghi allucinogeni, intendo).

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Messaggio Da Tomhet il Mer 17 Lug - 23:03

Mah, ok, ci sarebbe da approfondire per capire meglio il loro pensiero, non vedo però perché ci sia questo tanto meravigliarsi sugli effetti della droga sul cervello, la prendono proprio seriamente come cosa.
Peace.

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Messaggio Da loonar il Mer 17 Lug - 23:07

Tomhet ha scritto:Mah, ok, ci sarebbe da approfondire per capire meglio il loro pensiero, non vedo però perché ci sia questo tanto meravigliarsi sugli effetti della droga sul cervello, la prendono proprio seriamente come cosa.
Peace.

 perchè si fanno i viaggi! te te li sei mai fatti?
c'è gente che c'è rimasta!

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Re: Spiritualità

Messaggio Da Tomhet il Mer 17 Lug - 23:14

No, anche se sarebbe interessante provarli.
Però dico, questi che ne parlano "dall'esterno" e le riconoscono come allucinazioni, ne parlano sorprendentemente seriamente pur chiamandole loro stessi allucinazioni, al punto da costruirci una visione della realtà da affiancare, secondo l'articolo, alle differenti visioni spirituali in voga. Roba tosta da mettere sul campo e differenziare dalle altre.
Come effettuano questo grosso "salto" mi è oscuro.
Ma sono scelte, basta avere la coerenza di ammetterle come tali.

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Messaggio Da loonar il Mer 17 Lug - 23:19

Tomhet ha scritto:No, anche se sarebbe interessante provarli.
Però dico, questi che ne parlano "dall'esterno" e le riconoscono come allucinazioni, ne parlano sorprendentemente seriamente pur chiamandole loro stessi allucinazioni, al punto da costruirci una visione della realtà da affiancare, secondo l'articolo, alle differenti visioni spirituali in voga. Roba tosta da mettere sul campo e differenziare dalle altre.
Come effettuano questo grosso "salto" mi è oscuro.
Ma sono scelte, basta avere la coerenza di ammetterle come tali.

 un po' come con i sogni! Li fai, sono veri per te, ma non per gli altri, eh be'... chissene degli altri? Un po' il concetto è questo!
Poi loro parlano di visioni comuni, magari sono come le note musicali, gira gira alla fine saranno sempre le stesse e su queste comunanze di allucinazioni ci costruiscono il "mondo parallelo".

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